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Tommy Grogan vs Wesley Ramey — record, stats and common opponents compared

Tommy Grogan

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Wesley Ramey

Tommy Grogan (4-8-1 across 13 tracked bouts) and Wesley Ramey (152-28-14) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met once. They share 3 common opponents.

Grogan

Tracked record

4–8–1

counted from 13 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Ramey

152

Wins11 KO · 7%

28

Losses

14

Draws194 tracked bouts

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Ramey leads 1–0

Tommy Grogan and Wesley Ramey have met 1 time; Ramey leads 1–0.

Tommy Grogan and Wesley Ramey have met 1 time; Ramey leads 1–0.
Met1932Oct 26Series
Tommy GroganFighter ALLost0–1W–L
Wesley RameyFighter BWWon1–0W–L
ResultPTS1Meeting

The Numbers

Grogan 2 · Ramey 4 of 6 measurable rows
GroganRamey
Record†
4-8-1152-28-14 (edge)
Win %0–100%
34.6%
82% (edge)
Wins by knockoutmax 11
2
11 (edge)
KO ratenot comparable
—7.24%
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡0–100%
50% (edge)
7%
Times stopped‡max 4
0 (edge)
4
Title reignslevelmax 0
0
0
Bouts per year§max 16.4
2.5
16.4 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 194
13
194

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held
Tommy Grogan: No date of birth
Wesley Ramey: Died aged 87

Tommy Grogan left, Wesley Ramey right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored: younger is not better.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
Tommy Grogan4 wins · from 13 tracked bouts

Tommy Grogan: 4 tracked wins — 2 by KO/TKO (50%) and 2 on the cards (50%). Counted from 13 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

2 by KO/TKO 50%2 on the cards 50%

Wesley Ramey152 wins · from 194 tracked bouts

Wesley Ramey: 152 tracked wins — 11 by KO/TKO (7%), 129 on the cards (85%) and 12 by another method or unrecorded (8%). Counted from 194 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

11 by KO/TKO 7%129 on the cards 85%12 by another method or unrecorded 8%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Tommy Grogan 13, Wesley Ramey 194 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

3 shared

3 shared · Ramey better on 3

Grogan

Opponent

Ramey

  • Tommy Grogan

    1–1 against

    Loss, PTS

    1930

    Win, PTS

    1929

    JadickRamey better

    Wesley Ramey

    3–0 against

    Win, UD

    1937

    Win, PTS

    1933

    Win, PTS

    1931

  • Tommy Grogan

    0–2 against

    Loss, PTS

    1931

    Loss, PTS

    1930

    CanzoneriRamey better

    Wesley Ramey

    Win, PTS

    1933

  • Tommy Grogan

    Loss, PTS

    1933

    ShawRamey better

    Wesley Ramey

    Win, PTS

    1933

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Tommy Grogan last boxed on Apr 17, 1933 — 34,154 days ago. Grogan had lost seven straight.LLLLL

Canzoneri Mar 1931Petrole Jun 1932Ramey Oct 1932Ross Feb 1933Shaw Apr 19332.5 tracked bouts per year

Wesley Ramey has won once since losing a decision to Billy Beauhuld. Ramey last boxed on Jun 20, 1941.WLWLW

DeBello Apr 1940Castilloux Apr 1940Bisogno Jul 1940Beauhuld Sep 1940Arnault Jun 194116.4 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have Tommy Grogan and Wesley Ramey ever fought each other?
Yes. Tommy Grogan and Wesley Ramey met once on October 26, 1932, and Wesley Ramey won by PTS.
The meeting

LOct 26, 1932 · Ramey · PTS

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Grogan or Ramey?
Tommy Grogan is 4-8-1 across the 13 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Wesley Ramey is 152-28-14. Wesley Ramey has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Grogan4–8–134.6%

Ramey152–28–1482%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Grogan or Ramey?
Tommy Grogan has 2 knockout wins and Wesley Ramey has 11. Wesley Ramey has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Grogan2

Ramey117.2%

The Numbers ↓
Do Grogan and Ramey have any common opponents?
Tommy Grogan and Wesley Ramey share 3 common opponents: Johnny Jadick, Tony Canzoneri and Battling Shaw. Wesley Ramey fared better against 3 of them.
3 shared opponents

Johnny Jadick1–1W

Tony CanzoneriLW

Battling ShawLW

Common Opponents ↓
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Grogan and Ramey?
This comparison is drawn from 13 bouts tracked for Tommy Grogan and 194 bouts tracked for Wesley Ramey. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Grogan13bouts

Ramey194bouts

How They Win ↓

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