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Norbert Grupe vs Ray Patterson — record, stats and common opponents compared

Norbert Grupe (30-11-6) and Ray Patterson (2-6-2 across 10 tracked bouts) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met once. They share 1 common opponent.

Grupe

30

Wins24 KO · 80%

11

Losses

6

Draws47 tracked bouts

Patterson

Tracked record

2–6–2

counted from 10 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Series level 0–0 with 1 draw

Norbert Grupe and Ray Patterson have met 1 time; Series level 0–0 with 1 draw.

Norbert Grupe and Ray Patterson have met 1 time; Series level 0–0 with 1 draw.
Met1967May 3Series
Norbert GrupeFighter ADDraw0–0–1W–L–D
Ray PattersonFighter BDDraw0–0–1W–L–D
ResultPTS1Meeting

The Numbers

Grupe 5 · Patterson 1 of 6 measurable rows
GrupePatterson
Record†
30-11-6 (edge)2-6-2
Win %0–100%
70.2% (edge)
30%
Wins by knockoutmax 24
24 (edge)
1
KO ratenot comparable
80%—
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡0–100%
80% (edge)
50%
Times stopped‡max 2
2
1 (edge)
Title reignslevelmax 0
0
0
Bouts per year§max 5.6
5.6 (edge)
1.2
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 47
47
10

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Heightnot held
Norbert Grupe: 6′1″
Ray Patterson: No height on file
Agenot held
Norbert Grupe: Died aged 63
Ray Patterson: No date of birth
Stance
Norbert Grupe: Orthodox
Ray Patterson: Not recorded

Norbert Grupe left, Ray Patterson right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
Norbert Grupe30 wins · from 47 tracked bouts

Norbert Grupe: 30 tracked wins — 24 by KO/TKO (80%) and 6 on the cards (20%). Counted from 47 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

24 by KO/TKO 80%6 on the cards 20%

Ray Patterson2 wins · from 10 tracked bouts

Ray Patterson: 2 tracked wins — 1 by KO/TKO (50%) and 1 on the cards (50%). Counted from 10 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

1 by KO/TKO 50%1 on the cards 50%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Norbert Grupe 47, Ray Patterson 10 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

1 shared

1 shared · Patterson better on 1

Grupe

Opponent

Patterson

  • Norbert Grupe

    Loss, PTS

    1969

    BlinPatterson better

    Ray Patterson

    1–1 against

    Loss, PTS

    1970

    Win, PTS

    1965

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Norbert Grupe has lost four straight, after one straight win. Grupe last boxed on Dec 11, 1970.WLLLL

Rinaldi Apr 1969Bonavena Jun 1969Schmidtke Nov 1969Blin Dec 1969Schmidtke Dec 19705.6 tracked bouts per year

Ray Patterson last boxed on Nov 20, 1972 — 19,690 days ago. Patterson had lost the most recent, to Richard Dunn.DLLDL

Grupe May 1967Blin Feb 1970Bugner Apr 1970McAlinden Dec 1970Dunn Nov 19721.2 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have Norbert Grupe and Ray Patterson ever fought each other?
Yes. Norbert Grupe and Ray Patterson met once on May 3, 1967, and the bout was a draw by PTS.
The meeting

DMay 3, 1967 · Draw · PTS

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Grupe or Patterson?
Norbert Grupe is 30-11-6 and Ray Patterson is 2-6-2 across the 10 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Norbert Grupe has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Grupe30–11–670.2%

Patterson2–6–230%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Grupe or Patterson?
Norbert Grupe has 24 knockout wins and Ray Patterson has 1. Norbert Grupe has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Grupe2480%

Patterson1

The Numbers ↓
Do Grupe and Patterson have any common opponents?
Norbert Grupe and Ray Patterson share 1 common opponent: Jürgen Blin. Ray Patterson fared better against 1 of them.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Grupe and Patterson?
This comparison is drawn from 47 bouts tracked for Norbert Grupe and 10 bouts tracked for Ray Patterson. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Grupe47bouts

Patterson10bouts

How They Win ↓

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