Have Johnny Ertle and Kid Williams ever fought each other?

Yes. Johnny Ertle and Kid Williams have met 3 times and the series is level at 1-1 with 1 draw.

Who has the better record, Ertle or Williams?

Johnny Ertle is 3-6-2 across the 11 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Kid Williams is 162-30-12. Kid Williams has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.

Who has more knockouts, Ertle or Williams?

Johnny Ertle has 0 knockout wins and Kid Williams has 50. Kid Williams has more.

Do Ertle and Williams have any common opponents?

Johnny Ertle and Kid Williams share 5 common opponents: Jack "Kid" Wolfe, Joe Burman and Pete Herman (and 2 others). Neither fighter fared better across the shared opponents overall.

How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Ertle and Williams?

This comparison is drawn from 11 bouts tracked for Johnny Ertle and 205 bouts tracked for Kid Williams. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

Johnny Ertle vs Kid Williams — Records, Stats & Common Opponents

Johnny Ertle

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Kid Williams

Johnny Ertle (3-6-2 across 11 tracked bouts) and Kid Williams (162-30-12) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 3 times. They share 5 common opponents.

Ertle

Tracked record

3–6–2

counted from 11 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Williams

162

Wins50 KO · 31%

Losses

Draws205 tracked bouts

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Series level 1–1 with 1 draw

Johnny Ertle and Kid Williams have met 3 times; Series level 1–1 with 1 draw.
Met	1915Sep 10	1917Dec 17	1920Aug 13	Series
Johnny ErtleFighter A	WWon	DDraw	LLost	1–1–1W–L–D
Kid WilliamsFighter B	LLost	DDraw	WWon	1–1–1W–L–D
Result	DQR5Williams vs Ertle	PTSWilliams vs Ertle	PTSWilliams vs Ertle	3Meetings

The Numbers

Ertle 1 · Williams 5 of 6 measurable rows

ErtleEdge = longer wingWilliams

Record^†: 3-6-2162-30-12 (edge)
Win %0–100%: 36.4%
82.4% (edge)
Wins by knockoutmax 50: 0
50 (edge)
KO ratenot comparable: —30.86%
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)^‡0–100%: 0%
30% (edge)
Times stopped^‡max 5: 1 (edge)
5
Title reignslevelmax 0: 0
0
Bouts per year^§max 10.7: 1.7
10.7 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 205: 11
205

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held: Johnny Ertle: No date of birth; Kid Williams: Died aged 69
Stance: Johnny Ertle: Not recorded; Kid Williams: Orthodox

Johnny Ertle left, Kid Williams right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only

Johnny Ertle3 wins · from 11 tracked bouts

3 by another method or unrecorded 100%

Kid Williams161 wins · from 205 tracked bouts

49 by KO/TKO 30%42 on the cards 26%70 by another method or unrecorded 43%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Johnny Ertle 11, Kid Williams 205 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

5 shared

5 shared · Ertle better on 2 · Williams better on 2 · even on 15 shared · Johnny Ertle better on 2 · Kid Williams better on 2 · even on 1

ErtleJohnny Ertle

Opponent

WilliamsKid Williams

Johnny Ertle
0–2 against
Loss, NWS
1918Jan 1918
Loss, NWS
1917Dec 1917
WolfeJack "Kid" WolfeUnited States 81–28–26Williams betterKid Williams better — 0–1 to 0–2
Kid Williams
Loss, PTS
1921May 1921
Johnny Ertle
Win, NWS
1917Nov 1917
BurmanJoe BurmanUnited States 36–3–6EvenEven — 1–0 both
Kid Williams
Win, NWS
1921Apr 1921
Johnny Ertle
Loss, TKO 5
1919May 1919
HermanPete HermanUnited States 100–32–13Ertle betterJohnny Ertle better — 0–1 to 1–2–1
Kid Williams
1–2–1 against
Loss, NWS
1917Jun 1917
Loss, PTS
1917Jan 1917
Draw, PTS
1916Feb 1916
Win, NWS
1914Jun 1914
Johnny Ertle
0–2 against
Loss, PTS
1918Apr 1918
Loss, PTS
1915Apr 1915
MooreMemphis Pal MooreUnited States 170–56–38Williams betterKid Williams better — 0–1 to 0–2
Kid Williams
Loss, NWS
1915Oct 1915
Johnny Ertle
Draw, NWS
1916Oct 1916
LynchJoe LynchUnited States 99–36–21 · BantamweightErtle betterJohnny Ertle better — 0–0–1 to 0–1–1
Kid Williams
0–1–1 against
Loss, TKO 4
1918Jan 1918
Draw, NWS
1917Mar 1917

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Johnny Ertle last boxed on Aug 13, 1920 — 38,783 days ago. Ertle had lost four straight.DLLLL

Williams Dec 1917Wolfe Jan 1918Moore Apr 1918Herman May 1919Williams Aug 19201.7 tracked bouts per year

Kid Williams had won one in a row before losing by stoppage to Bobby Burns. Williams last boxed on Sep 3, 1929.WLLWL

Lampe Feb 1929Lampe Mar 1929Belmont Apr 1929Garcia Jul 1929Burns Sep 192910.7 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them

Have Johnny Ertle and Kid Williams ever fought each other?: Yes. Johnny Ertle and Kid Williams have met 3 times and the series is level at 1-1 with 1 draw.
Who has the better record, Ertle or Williams?: Johnny Ertle is 3-6-2 across the 11 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Kid Williams is 162-30-12. Kid Williams has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Who has more knockouts, Ertle or Williams?: Johnny Ertle has 0 knockout wins and Kid Williams has 50. Kid Williams has more.
Do Ertle and Williams have any common opponents?: Johnny Ertle and Kid Williams share 5 common opponents: Jack "Kid" Wolfe, Joe Burman and Pete Herman (and 2 others). Neither fighter fared better across the shared opponents overall.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Ertle and Williams?: This comparison is drawn from 11 bouts tracked for Johnny Ertle and 205 bouts tracked for Kid Williams. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

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