Have Johnny Dundee and Pal Moran ever fought each other?

Yes. Johnny Dundee and Pal Moran have met 4 times and Johnny Dundee leads the series 3-0 with 1 draw.

Who has the better record, Dundee or Moran?

Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46 and Pal Moran is 4-13-1 across the 18 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.

Who has more knockouts, Dundee or Moran?

Johnny Dundee has 17 knockout wins and Pal Moran has 1. Johnny Dundee has more.

Do Dundee and Moran have any common opponents?

Johnny Dundee and Pal Moran share 6 common opponents: Rocky Kansas, Sid Terris and Benny Leonard (and 3 others). Pal Moran fared better against 4 of them.

How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Dundee and Moran?

This comparison is drawn from 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee and 18 bouts tracked for Pal Moran. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

Johnny Dundee vs Pal Moran — Records, Stats & Common Opponents

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Johnny Dundee

Pal Moran

Johnny Dundee (201-73-46) and Pal Moran (4-13-1 across 18 tracked bouts) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 4 times. They share 6 common opponents.

Dundee

201

Wins17 KO · 8%

Losses

Draws321 tracked bouts

Moran

Tracked record

4–13–1

counted from 18 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Dundee leads 3–0 with 1 draw

Johnny Dundee and Pal Moran have met 4 times; Dundee leads 3–0 with 1 draw.
Met	1918Jan 14	1919Dec 15	1920Dec 20	1924Feb 1	Series
Johnny DundeeFighter A	WWon	WWon	DDraw	WWon	3–0–1W–L–D
Pal MoranFighter B	LLost	LLost	DDraw	LLost	0–3–1W–L–D
Result	PTSDundee vs Moran	NWSDundee vs Moran	PTSDundee vs Moran	PTSDundee vs Moran	4Meetings

The Numbers

Dundee 4 · Moran 2 of 6 measurable rows

DundeeEdge = longer wingMoran

Record^†: 201-73-46 (edge)4-13-1
Win %0–100%: 70% (edge)
25%
Wins by knockoutmax 17: 17 (edge)
1
KO ratenot comparable: 8.46%—
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)^‡0–100%: 8%
25% (edge)
Times stopped^‡max 2: 2
0 (edge)
Title reignslevelmax 0: 0
0
Bouts per year^§max 14.4: 14.4 (edge)
2.2
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 321: 321
18

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held: Johnny Dundee: Died aged 71; Pal Moran: No date of birth
Stance: Johnny Dundee: Orthodox; Pal Moran: Not recorded

Johnny Dundee left, Pal Moran right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only

Johnny Dundee201 wins · from 321 tracked bouts

17 by KO/TKO 8%66 on the cards 33%118 by another method or unrecorded 59%

Pal Moran4 wins · from 18 tracked bouts

1 by KO/TKO 25%1 on the cards 25%2 by another method or unrecorded 50%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Johnny Dundee 321, Pal Moran 18 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

6 shared

6 shared · Dundee better on 1 · Moran better on 4 · even on 16 shared · Johnny Dundee better on 1 · Pal Moran better on 4 · even on 1

DundeeJohnny Dundee

Opponent

MoranPal Moran

Johnny Dundee
3–2–1 against
Loss, UD
1924Apr 1924
Win, NWS
1921Apr 1921
Draw, PTS
1918Sep 1918
Win, PTS
1917May 1917
Win, NWS
1915May 1915
Loss, NWS
1914Feb 1914
KansasRocky KansasUnited States 123–27–15 · LightweightMoran betterPal Moran better — 1–0 to 3–2–1
Pal Moran
Win, NWS
1926Apr 1926
Johnny Dundee
0–2 against
Loss, PTS
1925Jun 1925
Loss, PTS
1925May 1925
TerrisSid TerrisUnited States 99–13–5EvenEven — 0–2 both
Pal Moran
0–2 against
Loss, PTS
1925Jun 1925
Loss, NWS
1925Mar 1925
Johnny Dundee
2–4–2 against
Loss, NWS
1920Feb 1920
Loss, NWS
1919Sep 1919
Loss, NWS
1919Jun 1919
Loss, NWS
1919Jan 1919
Win, NWS
1916Nov 1916
Draw, NWS
1916Jun 1916
Draw, NWS
1916Mar 1916
Win, NWS
1915Mar 1915
LeonardBenny LeonardUnited States 185–22–9Moran betterPal Moran better — 0–3 to 2–4–2
Pal Moran
0–3 against
Loss, NWS
1924Aug 1924
Loss, NWS
1922Feb 1922
Loss, NWS
1920Sep 1920
Johnny Dundee
3–3–1 against
Loss, NWS
1922Jun 1922
Win, PTS
1922Mar 1922
Loss, SD
1922Jan 1922
Draw, PTS
1921Aug 1921
Win, NWS
1919Nov 1919
Win, NWS
1913Nov 1913
Loss, NWS
1912Apr 1912
WhiteCharley WhiteUnited Kingdom 123–35–13Moran betterPal Moran better — 3–0 to 3–3–1
Pal Moran
3–0 against
Win, TKO 14
1923Oct 1923
Win, NWS
1920Aug 1920
Win, PTS
1920Jul 1920
Johnny Dundee
Win, SD
1922Apr 1922
GoodrichJimmy GoodrichUnited States 118–52–25Dundee betterJohnny Dundee better — 1–0 to 0–1
Pal Moran
Loss, PTS
1923Sep 1923
Johnny Dundee
0–3 against
Loss, UD
1922May 1922
Loss, NWS
1917Oct 1917
Loss, NWS
1917Mar 1917
TendlerLew TendlerUnited States 145–16–8 · WelterweightMoran betterPal Moran better — 0–2 to 0–3
Pal Moran
0–2 against
Loss, NWS
1923Jun 1923
Loss, PTS
1923Jan 1923

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Johnny Dundee has won once since losses to George Goldberg and Al Dunbar. Dundee last boxed on Dec 6, 1932.LWLLW

Foreman Sep 1929Goldberg Oct 1929Goldberg Nov 1929Dunbar Aug 1932Greb Dec 193214.4 tracked bouts per year

Pal Moran last boxed on Apr 12, 1926 — 36,720 days ago. Moran had won once since four straight losses.LLLLW

Leonard Aug 1924Kaplan Aug 1924Terris Mar 1925Terris Jun 1925Kansas Apr 19262.2 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them

Have Johnny Dundee and Pal Moran ever fought each other?: Yes. Johnny Dundee and Pal Moran have met 4 times and Johnny Dundee leads the series 3-0 with 1 draw.
Who has the better record, Dundee or Moran?: Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46 and Pal Moran is 4-13-1 across the 18 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Who has more knockouts, Dundee or Moran?: Johnny Dundee has 17 knockout wins and Pal Moran has 1. Johnny Dundee has more.
Do Dundee and Moran have any common opponents?: Johnny Dundee and Pal Moran share 6 common opponents: Rocky Kansas, Sid Terris and Benny Leonard (and 3 others). Pal Moran fared better against 4 of them.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Dundee and Moran?: This comparison is drawn from 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee and 18 bouts tracked for Pal Moran. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

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