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Johnny Dundee vs Mexican Joe Rivers — record, stats and common opponents compared

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Johnny Dundee

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Mexican Joe Rivers

Johnny Dundee (201-73-46) and Mexican Joe Rivers (2-9-1 across 12 tracked bouts) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 3 times. They share 3 common opponents.

Dundee

201

Wins17 KO · 8%

73

Losses

46

Draws321 tracked bouts

Rivers

Tracked record

2–9–1

counted from 12 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Dundee leads 3–0

Johnny Dundee and Mexican Joe Rivers have met 3 times; Dundee leads 3–0.

Johnny Dundee and Mexican Joe Rivers have met 3 times; Dundee leads 3–0.
Met1914Dec 81915Jul 231915Nov 8Series
Johnny DundeeFighter AWWonWWonWWon3–0W–L
Mexican Joe RiversFighter BLLostLLostLLost0–3W–L
ResultPTSNWSNWS3Meetings

The Numbers

Dundee 5 · Rivers 1 of 6 measurable rows
DundeeRivers
Record†
201-73-46 (edge)2-9-1
Win %0–100%
70% (edge)
20.8%
Wins by knockoutmax 17
17 (edge)
1
KO ratenot comparable
8.46%—
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡0–100%
8%
50% (edge)
Times stopped‡max 5
2 (edge)
5
Title reignslevelmax 0
0
0
Bouts per year§max 14.4
14.4 (edge)
0.4
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 321
321
12

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot comparable
Johnny Dundee: Died aged 71
Mexican Joe Rivers: Died aged 65
Stance
Johnny Dundee: Orthodox
Mexican Joe Rivers: Not recorded

Johnny Dundee left, Mexican Joe Rivers right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
Johnny Dundee201 wins · from 321 tracked bouts

Johnny Dundee: 201 tracked wins — 17 by KO/TKO (8%), 66 on the cards (33%) and 118 by another method or unrecorded (59%). Counted from 321 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

17 by KO/TKO 8%66 on the cards 33%118 by another method or unrecorded 59%

Mexican Joe Rivers2 wins · from 12 tracked bouts

Mexican Joe Rivers: 2 tracked wins — 1 by KO/TKO (50%) and 1 on the cards (50%). Counted from 12 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

1 by KO/TKO 50%1 on the cards 50%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Johnny Dundee 321, Mexican Joe Rivers 12 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

3 shared

3 shared · Dundee better on 1 · Rivers better on 1 · even on 1

Dundee

Opponent

Rivers

  • Johnny Dundee

    1–0–1 against

    Win, NWS

    1915

    Draw, PTS

    1914

    RitchieDundee better

    Mexican Joe Rivers

    Loss, KO 11

    1913

  • Johnny Dundee

    Loss, NWS

    1914

    WelshEven

    Mexican Joe Rivers

    Loss, PTS

    1914

  • Johnny Dundee

    0–1–1 against

    Draw, PTS

    1913

    Loss, NWS

    1912

    KilbaneRivers better

    Mexican Joe Rivers

    1–1 against

    Loss, KO 16

    1911

    Win, PTS

    1911

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Johnny Dundee has won once since losses to George Goldberg and Al Dunbar. Dundee last boxed on Dec 6, 1932.LWLLW

Foreman Sep 1929Goldberg Oct 1929Goldberg Nov 1929Dunbar Aug 1932Greb Dec 193214.4 tracked bouts per year

Mexican Joe Rivers has lost six straight. Rivers last boxed on Jan 8, 1942.LLLLL

Dundee Dec 1914Dundee Jul 1915Dundee Nov 1915Jack Feb 1941Pep Jan 19420.4 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have Johnny Dundee and Mexican Joe Rivers ever fought each other?
Yes. Johnny Dundee and Mexican Joe Rivers have met 3 times and Johnny Dundee leads the series 3-0.
The 3 meetings

WNov 8, 1915 · Dundee · NWS

WJul 23, 1915 · Dundee · NWS

WDec 8, 1914 · Dundee · PTS

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Dundee or Rivers?
Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46 and Mexican Joe Rivers is 2-9-1 across the 12 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Dundee201–73–4670%

Rivers2–9–120.8%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Dundee or Rivers?
Johnny Dundee has 17 knockout wins and Mexican Joe Rivers has 1. Johnny Dundee has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Dundee178.5%

Rivers1

The Numbers ↓
Do Dundee and Rivers have any common opponents?
Johnny Dundee and Mexican Joe Rivers share 3 common opponents: Willie Ritchie, Freddie Welsh and Johnny Kilbane. Neither fighter fared better across the shared opponents overall.
3 shared opponents

Willie Ritchie1–0–1L

Freddie WelshLL

Johnny Kilbane0–1–11–1

Common Opponents ↓
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Dundee and Rivers?
This comparison is drawn from 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee and 12 bouts tracked for Mexican Joe Rivers. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Dundee321bouts

Rivers12bouts

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