Have Johnny Dundee and Johnny Ray ever fought each other?

Yes. Johnny Dundee and Johnny Ray have met 4 times and the series is level at 1-1 with 2 draws.

Who has the better record, Dundee or Ray?

Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46 and Johnny Ray is 2-6-2 across the 10 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.

Who has more knockouts, Dundee or Ray?

Johnny Dundee has 17 knockout wins and Johnny Ray has 0. Johnny Dundee has more.

Do Dundee and Ray have any common opponents?

Johnny Dundee and Johnny Ray share 4 common opponents: Rocky Kansas, Charley White and George Chaney (and 1 other). Neither fighter fared better across the shared opponents overall.

How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Dundee and Ray?

This comparison is drawn from 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee and 10 bouts tracked for Johnny Ray. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

Johnny Dundee vs Johnny Ray — Records, Stats & Common Opponents

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Johnny Dundee

Johnny Ray

Johnny Dundee (201-73-46) and Johnny Ray (2-6-2 across 10 tracked bouts) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 4 times. They share 4 common opponents.

Dundee

201

Wins17 KO · 8%

Losses

Draws321 tracked bouts

Ray

Tracked record

2–6–2

counted from 10 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Series level 1–1 with 2 draws

Johnny Dundee and Johnny Ray have met 4 times; Series level 1–1 with 2 draws.
Met	1917Dec 8	1919Feb 24	1921Apr 11	1921May 21	Series
Johnny DundeeFighter A	DDraw	WWon	DDraw	LLost	1–1–2W–L–D
Johnny RayFighter B	DDraw	LLost	DDraw	WWon	1–1–2W–L–D
Result	NWSDundee vs Ray	NWSDundee vs Ray	NWSDundee vs Ray	NWSDundee vs Ray	4Meetings

The Numbers

Dundee 5 · Ray 1 of 6 measurable rows

DundeeEdge = longer wingRay

Record^†: 201-73-46 (edge)2-6-2
Win %0–100%: 70% (edge)
30%
Wins by knockoutmax 17: 17 (edge)
0
KO ratenot comparable: 8.46%—
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)^‡0–100%: 8% (edge)
0%
Times stopped^‡max 2: 2
0 (edge)
Title reignslevelmax 0: 0
0
Bouts per year^§max 14.4: 14.4 (edge)
1.6
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 321: 321
10

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held: Johnny Dundee: Died aged 71; Johnny Ray: No date of birth
Stance: Johnny Dundee: Orthodox; Johnny Ray: Not recorded

Johnny Dundee left, Johnny Ray right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only

Johnny Dundee201 wins · from 321 tracked bouts

17 by KO/TKO 8%66 on the cards 33%118 by another method or unrecorded 59%

Johnny Ray2 wins · from 10 tracked bouts

2 by another method or unrecorded 100%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Johnny Dundee 321, Johnny Ray 10 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

4 shared

4 shared · Dundee better on 2 · Ray better on 24 shared · Johnny Dundee better on 2 · Johnny Ray better on 2

DundeeJohnny Dundee

Opponent

RayJohnny Ray

Johnny Dundee
3–2–1 against
Loss, UD
1924Apr 1924
Win, NWS
1921Apr 1921
Draw, PTS
1918Sep 1918
Win, PTS
1917May 1917
Win, NWS
1915May 1915
Loss, NWS
1914Feb 1914
KansasRocky KansasUnited States 123–27–15 · LightweightRay betterJohnny Ray better — 0–1 to 3–2–1
Johnny Ray
Loss, NWS
1921Dec 1921
Johnny Dundee
3–3–1 against
Loss, NWS
1922Jun 1922
Win, PTS
1922Mar 1922
Loss, SD
1922Jan 1922
Draw, PTS
1921Aug 1921
Win, NWS
1919Nov 1919
Win, NWS
1913Nov 1913
Loss, NWS
1912Apr 1912
WhiteCharley WhiteUnited Kingdom 123–35–13Ray betterJohnny Ray better — 0–1 to 3–3–1
Johnny Ray
Loss, NWS
1922May 1922
Johnny Dundee
6–0–1 against
Win, DQ 5
1921Nov 1921
Win, NWS
1921Jul 1921
Win, PTS
1921Jun 1921
Win, NWS
1918Mar 1918
Win, NWS
1917Nov 1917
Draw, NWS
1917Jul 1917
Win, NWS
1914Apr 1914
ChaneyGeorge ChaneyUnited States 136–36–6 · Super Featherweight, FeatherweightDundee betterJohnny Dundee better — 6–0–1 to 1–1
Johnny Ray
1–1 against
Win, NWS
1918Jun 1918
Loss, NWS
1918Apr 1918
Johnny Dundee
0–1–1 against
Draw, PTS
1913Apr 1913
Loss, NWS
1912Sep 1912
KilbaneJohnny KilbaneUnited States 110–17–15 · FeatherweightDundee betterJohnny Dundee better — 0–1–1 to 0–2
Johnny Ray
0–2 against
Loss, NWS
1917Feb 1917
Loss, NWS
1916Mar 1916

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Johnny Dundee has won once since losses to George Goldberg and Al Dunbar. Dundee last boxed on Dec 6, 1932.LWLLW

Foreman Sep 1929Goldberg Oct 1929Goldberg Nov 1929Dunbar Aug 1932Greb Dec 193214.4 tracked bouts per year

Johnny Ray last boxed on May 27, 1922 — 38,135 days ago. Ray had lost two straight, after one straight win.LDWLL

Dundee Feb 1919Dundee Apr 1921Dundee May 1921Kansas Dec 1921White May 19221.6 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them

Have Johnny Dundee and Johnny Ray ever fought each other?: Yes. Johnny Dundee and Johnny Ray have met 4 times and the series is level at 1-1 with 2 draws.
Who has the better record, Dundee or Ray?: Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46 and Johnny Ray is 2-6-2 across the 10 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Who has more knockouts, Dundee or Ray?: Johnny Dundee has 17 knockout wins and Johnny Ray has 0. Johnny Dundee has more.
Do Dundee and Ray have any common opponents?: Johnny Dundee and Johnny Ray share 4 common opponents: Rocky Kansas, Charley White and George Chaney (and 1 other). Neither fighter fared better across the shared opponents overall.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Dundee and Ray?: This comparison is drawn from 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee and 10 bouts tracked for Johnny Ray. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

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