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John Thomas vs Willie Joyce — record, stats and common opponents compared

John Thomas

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Willie Joyce

John Thomas (5-4 across 9 tracked bouts) and Willie Joyce (71-21-10) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 2 times. They share 2 common opponents.

Thomas

Tracked record

5–4

counted from 9 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Joyce

71

Wins16 KO · 23%

21

Losses

10

Draws103 tracked bouts

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Series level 1–1

John Thomas and Willie Joyce have met 2 times; Series level 1–1.

John Thomas and Willie Joyce have met 2 times; Series level 1–1.
Met1943Feb 91944Mar 21Series
John ThomasFighter ALLostWWon1–1W–L
Willie JoyceFighter BWWonLLost1–1W–L
ResultMDUD2Meetings

The Numbers

Thomas 0 · Joyce 6 of 6 measurable rows
ThomasJoyce
Record†
5-471-21-10 (edge)
Win %0–100%
55.6%
74.5% (edge)
Wins by knockoutmax 16
1
16 (edge)
KO ratenot comparable
—22.54%
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡0–100%
20%
23% (edge)
Times stopped‡max 1
1
0 (edge)
Title reignslevelmax 0
0
0
Bouts per year§max 11
1
11 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 103
9
103

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Stance
John Thomas: Not recorded
Willie Joyce: Orthodox

John Thomas left, Willie Joyce right, as everywhere on this page. Stance is stated, not scored.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
John Thomas5 wins · from 9 tracked bouts

John Thomas: 5 tracked wins — 1 by KO/TKO (20%) and 4 on the cards (80%). Counted from 9 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

1 by KO/TKO 20%4 on the cards 80%

Willie Joyce71 wins · from 103 tracked bouts

Willie Joyce: 71 tracked wins — 16 by KO/TKO (23%) and 55 on the cards (77%). Counted from 103 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

16 by KO/TKO 23%55 on the cards 77%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — John Thomas 9, Willie Joyce 103 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

2 shared

2 shared · Thomas better on 1 · Joyce better on 1

Thomas

Opponent

Joyce

  • John Thomas

    1–1 against

    Win, UD

    1944

    Loss, SD

    1944

    ArmstrongThomas better

    Willie Joyce

    2–2 against

    Loss, PTS

    1944

    Win, UD

    1944

    Loss, UD

    1943

    Win, MD

    1943

  • John Thomas

    Win, TKO 5

    1942

    JenkinsJoyce better

    Willie Joyce

    2–0–1 against

    Win, SD

    1939

    Win, SD

    1939

    Draw, SD

    1939

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

John Thomas last boxed on Jan 28, 1951 — 27,660 days ago. Thomas had lost two straight, after two straight wins.LWWLL

Armstrong Apr 1944Armstrong Jul 1944Maxim Mar 1946Maxim Sep 1947Moore Jan 19511 tracked bouts per year

Willie Joyce last boxed on Mar 24, 1947 — 29,066 days ago. Joyce had lost the most recent, to Johnny Cesario.LWLDL

Bratton Oct 1946Castiglione Nov 1946Bratton Dec 1946Petrone Jan 1947Cesario Mar 194711 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have John Thomas and Willie Joyce ever fought each other?
Yes. John Thomas and Willie Joyce have met 2 times and the series is level at 1-1.
The 2 meetings

WMar 21, 1944 · Thomas · UD

LFeb 9, 1943 · Joyce · MD

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Thomas or Joyce?
John Thomas is 5-4 across the 9 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Willie Joyce is 71-21-10. Willie Joyce has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Thomas5–455.6%

Joyce71–21–1074.5%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Thomas or Joyce?
John Thomas has 1 knockout win and Willie Joyce has 16. Willie Joyce has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Thomas1

Joyce1622.5%

The Numbers ↓
Do Thomas and Joyce have any common opponents?
John Thomas and Willie Joyce share 2 common opponents: Henry Armstrong and Lew Jenkins. Neither fighter fared better across the shared opponents overall.
2 shared opponents

Henry Armstrong1–12–2

Lew JenkinsW2–0–1

Common Opponents ↓
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Thomas and Joyce?
This comparison is drawn from 9 bouts tracked for John Thomas and 103 bouts tracked for Willie Joyce. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Thomas9bouts

Joyce103bouts

How They Win ↓

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