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Joe Welling vs Johnny Dundee — record, stats and common opponents compared

Joe Welling

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Johnny Dundee

Joe Welling (8-13-1 across 22 tracked bouts) and Johnny Dundee (201-73-46) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 8 times. They share 4 common opponents.

Welling

Tracked record

8–13–1

counted from 22 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Dundee

201

Wins17 KO · 8%

73

Losses

46

Draws321 tracked bouts

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Welling leads 4–3 with 1 draw

Joe Welling and Johnny Dundee have met 8 times; Welling leads 4–3 with 1 draw.

Joe Welling and Johnny Dundee have met 8 times; Welling leads 4–3 with 1 draw.
Met1916Aug 301917Jun 71917Jul 201918Nov 161918Dec 31919Aug 111920Apr 231920Sep 17Series
Joe WellingFighter ALLostLLostWWonDDrawWWonLLostWWonWWon4–3–1W–L–D
Johnny DundeeFighter BWWonWWonLLostDDrawLLostWWonLLostLLost3–4–1W–L–D
ResultNWSNWSNWSNWSPTSNWSNWSPTS8Meetings

The Numbers

Welling 1 · Dundee 5 of 6 measurable rows
WellingDundee
Record†
8-13-1201-73-46 (edge)
Win %0–100%
38.6%
70% (edge)
Wins by knockoutmax 17
0
17 (edge)
KO ratenot comparable
—8.46%
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡0–100%
0%
8% (edge)
Times stopped‡max 2
1 (edge)
2
Title reignslevelmax 0
0
0
Bouts per year§max 14.4
2.7
14.4 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 321
22
321

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held
Joe Welling: No date of birth
Johnny Dundee: Died aged 71
Stance
Joe Welling: Not recorded
Johnny Dundee: Orthodox

Joe Welling left, Johnny Dundee right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
Joe Welling8 wins · from 22 tracked bouts

Joe Welling: 8 tracked wins — 3 on the cards (38%) and 5 by another method or unrecorded (63%). Counted from 22 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

3 on the cards 38%5 by another method or unrecorded 63%

Johnny Dundee201 wins · from 321 tracked bouts

Johnny Dundee: 201 tracked wins — 17 by KO/TKO (8%), 66 on the cards (33%) and 118 by another method or unrecorded (59%). Counted from 321 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

17 by KO/TKO 8%66 on the cards 33%118 by another method or unrecorded 59%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Joe Welling 22, Johnny Dundee 321 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

4 shared

4 shared · Welling better on 2 · Dundee better on 1 · even on 1

Welling

Opponent

Dundee

  • Joe Welling

    Loss, NWS

    1920

    KansasWelling better

    Johnny Dundee

    3–2–1 against

    Loss, UD

    1924

    Win, NWS

    1921

    Draw, PTS

    1918

    Win, PTS

    1917

    Win, NWS

    1915

    Loss, NWS

    1914

  • Joe Welling

    0–3 against

    Loss, NWS

    1920

    Loss, NWS

    1919

    Loss, NWS

    1919

    TendlerEven

    Johnny Dundee

    0–3 against

    Loss, UD

    1922

    Loss, NWS

    1917

    Loss, NWS

    1917

  • Joe Welling

    2–0 against

    Win, NWS

    1920

    Win, NWS

    1920

    ChaneyDundee better

    Johnny Dundee

    6–0–1 against

    Win, DQ 5

    1921

    Win, NWS

    1921

    Win, PTS

    1921

    Win, NWS

    1918

    Win, NWS

    1917

    Draw, NWS

    1917

    Win, NWS

    1914

  • Joe Welling

    0–2 against

    Loss, NWS

    1921

    Loss, TKO 14

    1920

    LeonardWelling better

    Johnny Dundee

    2–4–2 against

    Loss, NWS

    1920

    Loss, NWS

    1919

    Loss, NWS

    1919

    Loss, NWS

    1919

    Win, NWS

    1916

    Draw, NWS

    1916

    Draw, NWS

    1916

    Win, NWS

    1915

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Joe Welling last boxed on Nov 21, 1923 — 37,589 days ago. Welling had lost four straight, after one straight win.WLLLL

Dundee Sep 1920Tendler Oct 1920Leonard Nov 1920Leonard Feb 1921Dundee Nov 19232.7 tracked bouts per year

Johnny Dundee has won once since losses to George Goldberg and Al Dunbar. Dundee last boxed on Dec 6, 1932.LWLLW

Foreman Sep 1929Goldberg Oct 1929Goldberg Nov 1929Dunbar Aug 1932Greb Dec 193214.4 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have Joe Welling and Johnny Dundee ever fought each other?
Yes. Joe Welling and Johnny Dundee have met 8 times and Joe Welling leads the series 4-3 with 1 draw.
The 8 meetings

WSep 17, 1920 · Welling · PTS

WApr 23, 1920 · Welling · NWS

LAug 11, 1919 · Dundee · NWS

WDec 3, 1918 · Welling · PTS

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Welling or Dundee?
Joe Welling is 8-13-1 across the 22 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Welling8–13–138.6%

Dundee201–73–4670%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Welling or Dundee?
Joe Welling has 0 knockout wins and Johnny Dundee has 17. Johnny Dundee has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Welling0

Dundee178.5%

The Numbers ↓
Do Welling and Dundee have any common opponents?
Joe Welling and Johnny Dundee share 4 common opponents: Rocky Kansas, Lew Tendler and George Chaney (and 1 other). Joe Welling fared better against 2 of them.
4 shared opponents

Rocky KansasL3–2–1

Lew TendlerLL

George ChaneyW6–0–1

Benny LeonardL2–4–2

Common Opponents ↓
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Welling and Dundee?
This comparison is drawn from 22 bouts tracked for Joe Welling and 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Welling22bouts

Dundee321bouts

How They Win ↓

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