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Dave Shade vs Tillie Herman — record, stats and common opponents compared

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Dave Shade

Dave Shade (156-29-62) and Tillie Herman (0-4-1 across 5 tracked bouts) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 2 times. They share 1 common opponent.

Shade

156

Wins17 KO · 11%

29

Losses

62

Draws251 tracked bouts

Herman

Tracked record

0–4–1

counted from 5 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Shade leads 2–0

Dave Shade and Tillie Herman have met 2 times; Shade leads 2–0.

Dave Shade and Tillie Herman have met 2 times; Shade leads 2–0.
Met1922Jun 121927Mar 17Series
Dave ShadeFighter AWWonWWon2–0W–L
Tillie HermanFighter BLLostLLost0–2W–L
ResultDQTKO2Meetings

The Numbers

Shade 4 · Herman 0 of 4 measurable rows
ShadeHerman
Record†
156-29-62 (edge)0-4-1
Win %0–100%
75.7% (edge)
10%
Wins by knockoutmax 17
17 (edge)
0
KO ratenot comparable
10.9%—
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡not comparable
12%—
Times stopped‡levelmax 2
2
2
Title reignslevelmax 0
0
0
Bouts per year§max 14.2
14.2 (edge)
0.7
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 251
251
5

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held
Dave Shade: Died aged 81
Tillie Herman: No date of birth
Stance
Dave Shade: Orthodox
Tillie Herman: Not recorded

Dave Shade left, Tillie Herman right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
Dave Shade156 wins · from 251 tracked bouts

Dave Shade: 156 tracked wins — 18 by KO/TKO (12%), 112 on the cards (72%) and 26 by another method or unrecorded (17%). Counted from 251 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

18 by KO/TKO 12%112 on the cards 72%26 by another method or unrecorded 17%

Tillie Herman0 wins · from 5 tracked bouts

Tillie Herman: no tracked wins in the 5 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

No tracked wins for Herman yet.

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Dave Shade 251, Tillie Herman 5 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

1 shared

1 shared · even on 1

Shade

Opponent

Herman

  • Dave Shade

    0–1–1 against

    Draw, UD

    1924

    Loss, NWS

    1922

    LatzoEven

    Tillie Herman

    Loss, PTS

    1924

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Dave Shade has won once since losses to Al Gainer and Johnny Rossi. Shade last boxed on Dec 2, 1935.WWLLW

Kaminski Nov 1934Turner Jan 1935Gainer Jan 1935Rossi Mar 1935Sykes Dec 193514.2 tracked bouts per year

Tillie Herman last boxed on Mar 22, 1929 — 35,647 days ago. Herman had lost three straight.LDLLL

Shade Jun 1922Gans Jun 1924Latzo Dec 1924Shade Mar 1927Freeman Mar 19290.7 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have Dave Shade and Tillie Herman ever fought each other?
Yes. Dave Shade and Tillie Herman have met 2 times and Dave Shade leads the series 2-0.
The 2 meetings

WMar 17, 1927 · Shade · TKO

WJun 12, 1922 · Shade · DQ

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Shade or Herman?
Dave Shade is 156-29-62 and Tillie Herman is 0-4-1 across the 5 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Dave Shade has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Shade156–29–6275.7%

Herman0–4–110%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Shade or Herman?
Dave Shade has 17 knockout wins and Tillie Herman has 0. Dave Shade has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Shade1710.9%

Herman0

The Numbers ↓
Do Shade and Herman have any common opponents?
Dave Shade and Tillie Herman share 1 common opponent: Pete Latzo. Neither fighter fared better across the shared opponents overall.
Shared opponent

Pete Latzo0–1–1L

Common Opponents ↓
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Shade and Herman?
This comparison is drawn from 251 bouts tracked for Dave Shade and 5 bouts tracked for Tillie Herman. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Shade251bouts

Herman5bouts

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