Have Charley Thomas and Johnny Dundee ever fought each other?

Yes. Charley Thomas and Johnny Dundee have met 2 times and the series is level at 1-1.

Who has the better record, Thomas or Dundee?

Charley Thomas is 1-7 across the 8 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.

Who has more knockouts, Thomas or Dundee?

Charley Thomas has 0 knockout wins and Johnny Dundee has 17. Johnny Dundee has more.

Do Thomas and Dundee have any common opponents?

Charley Thomas and Johnny Dundee share 4 common opponents: Charley White, George Chaney and Benny Leonard (and 1 other). Charley Thomas fared better against 2 of them.

How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Thomas and Dundee?

This comparison is drawn from 8 bouts tracked for Charley Thomas and 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

Charley Thomas vs Johnny Dundee — Records, Stats & Common Opponents

Charley Thomas

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Johnny Dundee

Charley Thomas (1-7 across 8 tracked bouts) and Johnny Dundee (201-73-46) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 2 times. They share 4 common opponents.

Thomas

Tracked record

1–7

counted from 8 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Dundee

201

Wins17 KO · 8%

Losses

Draws321 tracked bouts

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Series level 1–1

Charley Thomas and Johnny Dundee have met 2 times; Series level 1–1.
Met	1911Oct 28	1914Apr 11	Series
Charley ThomasFighter A	WWon	LLost	1–1W–L
Johnny DundeeFighter B	LLost	WWon	1–1W–L
Result	NWSDundee vs Thomas	NWSDundee vs Thomas	2Meetings

The Numbers

Thomas 0 · Dundee 5 of 5 measurable rows

ThomasEdge = longer wingDundee

Record^†: 1-7201-73-46 (edge)
Win %0–100%: 12.5%
70% (edge)
Wins by knockoutmax 17: 0
17 (edge)
KO ratenot comparable: —8.46%
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)^‡0–100%: 0%
8% (edge)
Times stopped^‡levelmax 2: 2
2
Title reignslevelmax 0: 0
0
Bouts per year^§max 14.4: 1.3
14.4 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 321: 8
321

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held: Charley Thomas: No date of birth; Johnny Dundee: Died aged 71
Stance: Charley Thomas: Not recorded; Johnny Dundee: Orthodox

Charley Thomas left, Johnny Dundee right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only

Charley Thomas1 win · from 8 tracked bouts

1 by another method or unrecorded 100%

Johnny Dundee201 wins · from 321 tracked bouts

17 by KO/TKO 8%66 on the cards 33%118 by another method or unrecorded 59%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Charley Thomas 8, Johnny Dundee 321 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

4 shared

4 shared · Thomas better on 2 · Dundee better on 1 · even on 14 shared · Charley Thomas better on 2 · Johnny Dundee better on 1 · even on 1

ThomasCharley Thomas

Opponent

DundeeJohnny Dundee

Charley Thomas
0–2 against
Loss, KO
1915Jun 1915
Loss, NWS
1915Mar 1915
WhiteCharley WhiteUnited Kingdom 123–35–13Thomas betterCharley Thomas better — 0–2 to 3–3–1
Johnny Dundee
3–3–1 against
Loss, NWS
1922Jun 1922
Win, PTS
1922Mar 1922
Loss, SD
1922Jan 1922
Draw, PTS
1921Aug 1921
Win, NWS
1919Nov 1919
Win, NWS
1913Nov 1913
Loss, NWS
1912Apr 1912
Charley Thomas
Loss, PTS
1918Mar 1918
ChaneyGeorge ChaneyUnited States 136–36–6 · Super Featherweight, FeatherweightDundee betterJohnny Dundee better — 6–0–1 to 0–1
Johnny Dundee
6–0–1 against
Win, DQ 5
1921Nov 1921
Win, NWS
1921Jul 1921
Win, PTS
1921Jun 1921
Win, NWS
1918Mar 1918
Win, NWS
1917Nov 1917
Draw, NWS
1917Jul 1917
Win, NWS
1914Apr 1914
Charley Thomas
0–2 against
Loss, TKO
1917May 1917
Loss, NWS
1916May 1916
LeonardBenny LeonardUnited States 185–22–9Thomas betterCharley Thomas better — 0–2 to 2–4–2
Johnny Dundee
2–4–2 against
Loss, NWS
1920Feb 1920
Loss, NWS
1919Sep 1919
Loss, NWS
1919Jun 1919
Loss, NWS
1919Jan 1919
Win, NWS
1916Nov 1916
Draw, NWS
1916Jun 1916
Draw, NWS
1916Mar 1916
Win, NWS
1915Mar 1915
Charley Thomas
Loss, NWS
1914Feb 1914
KilbaneJohnny KilbaneUnited States 110–17–15 · FeatherweightEvenEven — Charley Thomas 0–1, Johnny Dundee 0–1–1
Johnny Dundee
0–1–1 against
Draw, PTS
1913Apr 1913
Loss, NWS
1912Sep 1912

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Charley Thomas last boxed on Mar 20, 1918 — 39,667 days ago. Thomas had lost seven straight.LLLLL

White Mar 1915White Jun 1915Leonard May 1916Leonard May 1917Chaney Mar 19181.3 tracked bouts per year

Johnny Dundee has won once since losses to George Goldberg and Al Dunbar. Dundee last boxed on Dec 6, 1932.LWLLW

Foreman Sep 1929Goldberg Oct 1929Goldberg Nov 1929Dunbar Aug 1932Greb Dec 193214.4 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them

Have Charley Thomas and Johnny Dundee ever fought each other?: Yes. Charley Thomas and Johnny Dundee have met 2 times and the series is level at 1-1.
Who has the better record, Thomas or Dundee?: Charley Thomas is 1-7 across the 8 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Who has more knockouts, Thomas or Dundee?: Charley Thomas has 0 knockout wins and Johnny Dundee has 17. Johnny Dundee has more.
Do Thomas and Dundee have any common opponents?: Charley Thomas and Johnny Dundee share 4 common opponents: Charley White, George Chaney and Benny Leonard (and 1 other). Charley Thomas fared better against 2 of them.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Thomas and Dundee?: This comparison is drawn from 8 bouts tracked for Charley Thomas and 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

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