Have Andy Kid Palmer and Panama Joe Gans ever fought each other?

Yes. Andy Kid Palmer and Panama Joe Gans have met 2 times and the series is level at 1-1.

Who has the better record, Palmer or Gans?

Andy Kid Palmer is 1-6 across the 7 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Panama Joe Gans is 92-31-11. Panama Joe Gans has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.

Do Palmer and Gans have any common opponents?

Andy Kid Palmer and Panama Joe Gans share 2 common opponents: Jeff Smith and Tiger Flowers. Panama Joe Gans fared better against 2 of them.

How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Palmer and Gans?

This comparison is drawn from 7 bouts tracked for Andy Kid Palmer and 136 bouts tracked for Panama Joe Gans. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

Andy Kid Palmer vs Panama Joe Gans — Records, Stats & Common Opponents

Andy Kid Palmer

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Panama Joe Gans

Andy Kid Palmer (1-6 across 7 tracked bouts) and Panama Joe Gans (92-31-11) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met 2 times. They share 2 common opponents.

Palmer

Tracked record

1–6

counted from 7 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Gans

Wins

Losses

Draws136 tracked bouts

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Series level 1–1

Andy Kid Palmer and Panama Joe Gans have met 2 times; Series level 1–1.
Met	1922Oct 27	1923Jan 6	Series
Andy Kid PalmerFighter A	WWon	LLost	1–1W–L
Panama Joe GansFighter B	LLost	WWon	1–1W–L
Result	DQR6Gans vs Palmer	PTSGans vs Palmer	2Meetings

The Numbers

Palmer 0 · Gans 4 of 4 measurable rows

PalmerEdge = longer wingGans

Record^†: 1-692-31-11 (edge)
Win %0–100%: 14.3%
72.8% (edge)
Wins by knockoutlevelmax 0: 0
0
KO ratenot comparable: —0%
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)^‡0–100%: 0%
49% (edge)
Times stopped^‡levelmax 1: 1
1
Title reignslevelmax 0: 0
0
Bouts per year^§max 10.2: 1.2
10.2 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 136: 7
136

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Heightnot held: Andy Kid Palmer: No height on file; Panama Joe Gans: 5′7″
Agenot held: Andy Kid Palmer: No date of birth; Panama Joe Gans: Died aged 86
Stance: Andy Kid Palmer: Not recorded; Panama Joe Gans: Orthodox

Andy Kid Palmer left, Panama Joe Gans right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only

Andy Kid Palmer1 win · from 7 tracked bouts

1 by another method or unrecorded 100%

Panama Joe Gans92 wins · from 136 tracked bouts

45 by KO/TKO 49%28 on the cards 30%19 by another method or unrecorded 21%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Andy Kid Palmer 7, Panama Joe Gans 136 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

2 shared

2 shared · Gans better on 22 shared · Panama Joe Gans better on 2

PalmerAndy Kid Palmer

Opponent

GansPanama Joe Gans

Andy Kid Palmer
0–2 against
Loss, NWS
1923Aug 1923
Loss, PTS
1922Jan 1922
SmithJeff SmithUnited States 141–34–5Gans betterPanama Joe Gans better — 1–0 to 0–2
Panama Joe Gans
Win, NWS
1919Jul 1919
Andy Kid Palmer
Loss, PTS
1922Aug 1922
FlowersTiger FlowersUnited States 135–17–8 · MiddleweightGans betterPanama Joe Gans better — 2–1 to 0–1
Panama Joe Gans
2–1 against
Loss, NWS
1923May 1923
Win, KO 5
1921Dec 1921
Win, KO 6
1921Aug 1921

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Andy Kid Palmer last boxed on Nov 21, 1927 — 36,130 days ago. Palmer had lost four straight, after one straight win.WLLLL

Gans Oct 1922Gans Jan 1923Smith Aug 1923Delaney Aug 1923Stribling Nov 19271.2 tracked bouts per year

Panama Joe Gans has lost the most recent, to Francisco Soler. Gans last boxed on Jun 10, 1928.LWLDL

Forgione May 1927Baldi Feb 1928Plata Mar 1928Villanueva Apr 1928Soler Jun 192810.2 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them

Have Andy Kid Palmer and Panama Joe Gans ever fought each other?: Yes. Andy Kid Palmer and Panama Joe Gans have met 2 times and the series is level at 1-1.
Who has the better record, Palmer or Gans?: Andy Kid Palmer is 1-6 across the 7 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Panama Joe Gans is 92-31-11. Panama Joe Gans has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Do Palmer and Gans have any common opponents?: Andy Kid Palmer and Panama Joe Gans share 2 common opponents: Jeff Smith and Tiger Flowers. Panama Joe Gans fared better against 2 of them.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Palmer and Gans?: This comparison is drawn from 7 bouts tracked for Andy Kid Palmer and 136 bouts tracked for Panama Joe Gans. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

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