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Al Shubert vs Johnny Dundee — record, stats and common opponents compared

Al Shubert

🇺🇸FEATHERWEIGHT

Johnny Dundee

Al Shubert (12-9-1 across 22 tracked bouts) and Johnny Dundee (201-73-46) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met once. They share 5 common opponents.

Shubert

Tracked record

12–9–1

counted from 22 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Dundee

201

Wins17 KO · 8%

73

Losses

46

Draws321 tracked bouts

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Shubert leads 1–0

Al Shubert and Johnny Dundee have met 1 time; Shubert leads 1–0.

Al Shubert and Johnny Dundee have met 1 time; Shubert leads 1–0.
Met1923Nov 29Series
Al ShubertFighter AWWon1–0W–L
Johnny DundeeFighter BLLost0–1W–L
ResultPTS1Meeting

The Numbers

Shubert 1 · Dundee 5 of 6 measurable rows
ShubertDundee
Record†
12-9-1201-73-46 (edge)
Win %0–100%
56.8%
70% (edge)
Wins by knockoutmax 17
0
17 (edge)
KO ratenot comparable
—8.46%
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡0–100%
0%
8% (edge)
Times stopped‡max 2
0 (edge)
2
Title reignslevelmax 0
0
0
Bouts per year§max 14.4
2.2
14.4 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 321
22
321

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Agenot held
Al Shubert: No date of birth
Johnny Dundee: Died aged 71
Stance
Al Shubert: Not recorded
Johnny Dundee: Orthodox

Al Shubert left, Johnny Dundee right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
Al Shubert12 wins · from 22 tracked bouts

Al Shubert: 12 tracked wins — 10 on the cards (83%) and 2 by another method or unrecorded (17%). Counted from 22 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

10 on the cards 83%2 by another method or unrecorded 17%

Johnny Dundee201 wins · from 321 tracked bouts

Johnny Dundee: 201 tracked wins — 17 by KO/TKO (8%), 66 on the cards (33%) and 118 by another method or unrecorded (59%). Counted from 321 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

17 by KO/TKO 8%66 on the cards 33%118 by another method or unrecorded 59%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Al Shubert 22, Johnny Dundee 321 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

5 shared

5 shared · Shubert better on 2 · even on 3

Shubert

Opponent

Dundee

  • Al Shubert

    Loss, PTS

    1924

    TerrisShubert better

    Johnny Dundee

    0–2 against

    Loss, PTS

    1925

    Loss, PTS

    1925

  • Al Shubert

    Win, PTS

    1924

    GoodrichEven

    Johnny Dundee

    Win, SD

    1922

  • Al Shubert

    Win, PTS

    1918

    SharkeyEven

    Johnny Dundee

    Win, UD

    1922

  • Al Shubert

    0–1–1 against

    Draw, NWS

    1916

    Loss, NWS

    1916

    TendlerShubert better

    Johnny Dundee

    0–3 against

    Loss, UD

    1922

    Loss, NWS

    1917

    Loss, NWS

    1917

  • Al Shubert

    Loss, NWS

    1920

    KilbaneEven

    Johnny Dundee

    0–1–1 against

    Draw, PTS

    1913

    Loss, NWS

    1912

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Al Shubert last boxed on Mar 13, 1925 — 37,111 days ago. Shubert had won one in a row before losing a decision to Billy Petrole.WWLWL

Kaplan Mar 1923Dundee Nov 1923Terris Jun 1924Goodrich Aug 1924Petrole Mar 19252.2 tracked bouts per year

Johnny Dundee has won once since losses to George Goldberg and Al Dunbar. Dundee last boxed on Dec 6, 1932.LWLLW

Foreman Sep 1929Goldberg Oct 1929Goldberg Nov 1929Dunbar Aug 1932Greb Dec 193214.4 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have Al Shubert and Johnny Dundee ever fought each other?
Yes. Al Shubert and Johnny Dundee met once on November 29, 1923, and Al Shubert won by PTS.
The meeting

WNov 29, 1923 · Shubert · PTS

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Shubert or Dundee?
Al Shubert is 12-9-1 across the 22 bouts Kill The Body has tracked and Johnny Dundee is 201-73-46. Johnny Dundee has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Shubert12–9–156.8%

Dundee201–73–4670%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Shubert or Dundee?
Al Shubert has 0 knockout wins and Johnny Dundee has 17. Johnny Dundee has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Shubert0

Dundee178.5%

The Numbers ↓
Do Shubert and Dundee have any common opponents?
Al Shubert and Johnny Dundee share 5 common opponents: Sid Terris, Jimmy Goodrich and Jackie Sharkey (and 2 others). Al Shubert fared better against 2 of them.
5 shared opponents

Sid TerrisLL

Jimmy GoodrichWW

Jackie SharkeyWW

Lew Tendler0–1–1L

and 1 more

Common Opponents ↓
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Shubert and Dundee?
This comparison is drawn from 22 bouts tracked for Al Shubert and 321 bouts tracked for Johnny Dundee. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Shubert22bouts

Dundee321bouts

How They Win ↓

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