Have Abe Goldstein and Joe Burman ever fought each other?

Yes. Abe Goldstein and Joe Burman met once on October 19, 1923, and Abe Goldstein won by PTS.

Who has the better record, Goldstein or Burman?

Abe Goldstein is 102-24-9 and Joe Burman is 36-3-6. Joe Burman has the higher win percentage.

Who has more knockouts, Goldstein or Burman?

Abe Goldstein has 35 knockout wins and Joe Burman has 21. Abe Goldstein has more.

Do Goldstein and Burman have any common opponents?

Abe Goldstein and Joe Burman share 16 common opponents: Tommy Ryan, Charles Ledoux and Joe Lynch (and 13 others). Abe Goldstein fared better against 8 of them.

Who is bigger, Goldstein or Burman?

Abe Goldstein is the taller fighter at 165 cm, 2 cm above the other.

How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Goldstein and Burman?

This comparison is drawn from 135 bouts tracked for Abe Goldstein and 129 bouts tracked for Joe Burman. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

Abe Goldstein vs Joe Burman — Records, Stats & Common Opponents

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Joe Burman

Abe Goldstein (102-24-9) and Joe Burman (36-3-6) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met once. They share 16 common opponents.

Goldstein

102

Wins35 KO · 34%

Losses

Draws135 tracked bouts

Burman

Wins21 KO · 58%

Losses

Draws129 tracked bouts

Head to Head

Goldstein leads 1–0

Abe Goldstein and Joe Burman have met 1 time; Goldstein leads 1–0.
Met	1923Oct 19	Series
Abe GoldsteinFighter A	WWon	1–0W–L
Joe BurmanFighter B	LLost	0–1W–L
Result	PTSBurman vs Goldstein	1Meeting

Burman vs Goldstein · Oct 19, 1923

The Numbers

Goldstein 3 · Burman 5 of 8 measurable rows

GoldsteinEdge = longer wingBurman

Record: 102-24-936-3-6 (edge)
Win %0–100%: 78.9%
86.7% (edge)
Wins by knockoutmax 35: 35 (edge)
21
KO rate0–100%: 34.31%
58.33% (edge)
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)^†0–100%: 34% (edge)
23%
Times stopped^†max 4: 4
0 (edge)
Title reignsmax 1: 1 (edge)
0
Bouts per year^‡max 15.5: 12.3
15.5 (edge)
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 135: 135
129

† Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · ‡ Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Height+1″: Abe Goldstein: 5′5″ (edge); Joe Burman: 5′4″
Agenot comparable: Abe Goldstein: Died aged 78; Joe Burman: Died aged 80
Stance: Abe Goldstein: Orthodox; Joe Burman: Orthodox

Abe Goldstein left, Joe Burman right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only

Abe Goldstein102 wins · from 135 tracked bouts

35 by KO/TKO 34%35 on the cards 34%32 by another method or unrecorded 31%

Joe Burman91 wins · from 129 tracked bouts

21 by KO/TKO 23%14 on the cards 15%56 by another method or unrecorded 62%

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Abe Goldstein 135, Joe Burman 129 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

16 shared

16 shared · Goldstein better on 8 · Burman better on 3 · even on 516 shared · Abe Goldstein better on 8 · Joe Burman better on 3 · even on 5

GoldsteinAbe Goldstein

Opponent

BurmanJoe Burman

Abe Goldstein
3–0 against
Win, PTS
1924Sep 1924
Win, NWS
1923Jun 1923
Win, NWS
1923Mar 1923
RyanTommy RyanGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 3–0 to 1–0–1
Joe Burman
1–0–1 against
Win, NWS
1922May 1922
Draw, NWS
1922Feb 1922
Abe Goldstein
Win, UD
1924Jul 1924
LedouxCharles LedouxFrance 106–31–7Burman betterJoe Burman better — 3–0–1 to 1–0
Joe Burman
3–0–1 against
Win, PTS
1921Jul 1921
Draw, PTS
1920Nov 1920
Win, NWS
1920Sep 1920
Win, NWS
1920Jun 1920
Abe Goldstein
1–1 against
Win, PTS
1924Mar 1924
Loss, KO 11
1920Nov 1920
LynchJoe LynchUnited States 99–36–21 · BantamweightGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 1–1 to 2–2–1
Joe Burman
2–2–1 against
Win, NWS
1923Mar 1923
Win, NWS
1921Jun 1921
Loss, NWS
1921Mar 1921
Loss, NWS
1919Oct 1919
Draw, NWS
1919Sep 1919
Abe Goldstein
Win, PTS
1923Sep 1923
ConwayFrankie ConwayBurman betterJoe Burman better — 2–0 to 1–0
Joe Burman
2–0 against
Win, KO 5
1919Jan 1919
Win, NWS
1918Dec 1918
Abe Goldstein
3–0 against
Win, NWS
1923Jul 1923
Win, PTS
1922Dec 1922
Win, NWS
1917Apr 1917
RashKid RashEvenEven — 3–0 both
Joe Burman
3–0 against
Win, KO
1916Dec 1916
Win, NWS
1916Dec 1916
Win, KO
1916Aug 1916
Abe Goldstein
4–0 against
Win, PTS
1923Jun 1923
Win, PTS
1923Jan 1923
Win, PTS
1921Dec 1921
Win, PTS
1921Feb 1921
DalyFrankie DalyGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 4–0 to 3–0–1
Joe Burman
3–0–1 against
Win, NWS
1920Aug 1920
Draw, PTS
1919Apr 1919
Win, NWS
1917Nov 1917
Win, NWS
1917Mar 1917
Abe Goldstein
Draw, PTS
1921Sep 1921
AndersonCowboy Eddie AndersonBurman betterJoe Burman better — 1–0 to 0–0–1
Joe Burman
Win, NWS
1922Aug 1922
Abe Goldstein
Win, KO
1920Apr 1920
DundeeMike DundeeGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 1–0 to 1–1
Joe Burman
1–1 against
Loss, NWS
1922Jul 1922
Win, NWS
1919Dec 1919
Abe Goldstein
5–0 against
Win, NWS
1922Mar 1922
Win, KO 7
1921Feb 1921
Win, PTS
1920Sep 1920
Win, NWS
1918Apr 1918
Win, NWS
1918Apr 1918
WallacePatsy WallaceGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 5–0 to 1–0
Joe Burman
Win, NWS
1920Apr 1920
Abe Goldstein
Win, UD
1921Jul 1921
PuryearEarl PuryearGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 1–0 to 0–0–1
Joe Burman
Draw, PTS
1918Sep 1918
Abe Goldstein
2–0 against
Win, UD
1921Apr 1921
Win, PTS
1921Mar 1921
ThompsonGeorge ThompsonGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 2–0 to 1–0
Joe Burman
Win, NWS
1917Jul 1917
Abe Goldstein
Loss, NWS
1921Feb 1921
WilliamsKid WilliamsUnited States 162–30–12 · BantamweightEvenEven — 0–1 both
Joe Burman
Loss, NWS
1921Apr 1921
Abe Goldstein
Win, NWS
1921Jan 1921
JohnsonPatsy JohnsonEvenEven — 1–0 both
Joe Burman
Win, PTS
1919Jun 1919
Abe Goldstein
Win, NWS
1920Aug 1920
MontrealYoung MontrealGoldstein betterAbe Goldstein better — 1–0 to 0–1
Joe Burman
Loss, NWS
1920Dec 1920
Abe Goldstein
Win, KO
1920Mar 1920
FitzsimmonsBilly FitzsimmonsEvenEven — Abe Goldstein 1–0, Joe Burman 1–0–1
Joe Burman
1–0–1 against
Draw, NWS
1917Mar 1917
Win, NWS
1917Feb 1917
Abe Goldstein
Win, KO 8
1916Jun 1916
LewisGeorgie LewisUnited StatesEvenEven — 1–0 both
Joe Burman
Win, KO
1916Oct 1916

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Abe Goldstein had won one in a row before losing by stoppage to Ignacio Fernandez. Goldstein last boxed on Jun 24, 1927.DWLWL

Sarmiento Feb 1927Sarmiento Mar 1927Taylor May 1927Spencer May 1927Fernandez Jun 192712.3 tracked bouts per year

Joe Burman drew the most recent tracked bout with Dick Griffin. Burman last boxed on Mar 25, 1924.LLWLD

Goldstein Oct 1923Curtin Nov 1923McCoy Dec 1923Goozeman Dec 1923Griffin Mar 192415.5 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them

Have Abe Goldstein and Joe Burman ever fought each other?: Yes. Abe Goldstein and Joe Burman met once on October 19, 1923, and Abe Goldstein won by PTS.
Who has the better record, Goldstein or Burman?: Abe Goldstein is 102-24-9 and Joe Burman is 36-3-6. Joe Burman has the higher win percentage.
Who has more knockouts, Goldstein or Burman?: Abe Goldstein has 35 knockout wins and Joe Burman has 21. Abe Goldstein has more.
Do Goldstein and Burman have any common opponents?: Abe Goldstein and Joe Burman share 16 common opponents: Tommy Ryan, Charles Ledoux and Joe Lynch (and 13 others). Abe Goldstein fared better against 8 of them.
Who is bigger, Goldstein or Burman?: Abe Goldstein is the taller fighter at 165 cm, 2 cm above the other.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Goldstein and Burman?: This comparison is drawn from 135 bouts tracked for Abe Goldstein and 129 bouts tracked for Joe Burman. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.

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