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Abe Goldstein vs Al Ziemer — record, stats and common opponents compared

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Abe Goldstein

Abe Goldstein (102-24-9) and Al Ziemer (0-3 across 3 tracked bouts) are compared on record, finishing method, activity, and common opponents on Kill The Body. The two have met once. They share 1 common opponent.

Goldstein

102

Wins35 KO · 34%

24

Losses

9

Draws135 tracked bouts

Ziemer

Tracked record

0–3

counted from 3 bouts Kill The Body has ingested

Heads up: at least one of these records is a tracked record — the wins and losses Kill The Body has ingested so far, not an independently verified career total. Treat the comparison as a read on the bouts we hold, not a settled ledger.

Head to Head

Goldstein leads 1–0

Abe Goldstein and Al Ziemer have met 1 time; Goldstein leads 1–0.

Abe Goldstein and Al Ziemer have met 1 time; Goldstein leads 1–0.
Met1920Feb 25Series
Abe GoldsteinFighter AWWon1–0W–L
Al ZiemerFighter BLLost0–1W–L
ResultTKO1Meeting

The Numbers

Goldstein 5 · Ziemer 1 of 6 measurable rows
GoldsteinZiemer
Record†
102-24-9 (edge)0-3
Win %0–100%
78.9% (edge)
0%
Wins by knockoutmax 35
35 (edge)
0
KO ratenot comparable
34.31%—
Stoppage rate (tracked wins)‡not comparable
34%—
Times stopped‡max 4
4
1 (edge)
Title reignsmax 1
1 (edge)
0
Bouts per year§max 12.3
12.3 (edge)
0.6
Bouts trackedcoveragemax 135
135
3

† One or both records are tracked, not career-verified. · ‡ Counted from bouts Kill The Body has ingested, not a career total. · § Across each fighter's tracked career span. · Bars are scaled per row — percentages on 0–100, counts against the larger of the two. Every figure is also printed as text.

Tale of the Tape

Heightnot held
Abe Goldstein: 5′5″
Al Ziemer: No height on file
Agenot held
Abe Goldstein: Died aged 78
Al Ziemer: No date of birth
Stance
Abe Goldstein: Orthodox
Al Ziemer: Not recorded

Abe Goldstein left, Al Ziemer right, as everywhere on this page. Age is stated, not scored — neither age nor stance carries an edge.

How They Win

Tracked bouts only
Abe Goldstein102 wins · from 135 tracked bouts

Abe Goldstein: 102 tracked wins — 35 by KO/TKO (34%), 35 on the cards (34%) and 32 by another method or unrecorded (31%). Counted from 135 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

35 by KO/TKO 34%35 on the cards 34%32 by another method or unrecorded 31%

Al Ziemer0 wins · from 3 tracked bouts

Al Ziemer: no tracked wins in the 3 bouts Kill The Body has ingested.

No tracked wins for Ziemer yet.

One square per tracked win. Counted from the bouts Kill The Body has ingested for each fighter — Abe Goldstein 135, Al Ziemer 3 — not from a career-complete method table.

Common Opponents

1 shared

1 shared · Ziemer better on 1

Goldstein

Opponent

Ziemer

  • Abe Goldstein

    0–3 against

    Loss, UD

    1927

    Loss, NWS

    1926

    Loss, PTS

    1925

    TaylorZiemer better

    Al Ziemer

    0–2 against

    Loss, NWS

    1925

    Loss, NWS

    1924

Both sides are set at the same size on purpose. Kill The Body does not score a second-round knockout above a split decision — the edge counts losses first and wins as the tiebreak, and the rest is yours to argue. Shared opponents are matched on fighter identity, not on name, so two different fighters with the same name never merge into one row.

Current Form

Oldest left · newest right

Abe Goldstein had won one in a row before losing by stoppage to Ignacio Fernandez. Goldstein last boxed on Jun 24, 1927.DWLWL

Sarmiento Feb 1927Sarmiento Mar 1927Taylor May 1927Spencer May 1927Fernandez Jun 192712.3 tracked bouts per year

Al Ziemer last boxed on Jan 1, 1925 — 37,181 days ago. Ziemer had lost three straight.LLL

Goldstein Feb 1920Taylor Jun 1924Taylor Jan 19250.6 tracked bouts per year

Common Questions

With the rows behind them
Have Abe Goldstein and Al Ziemer ever fought each other?
Yes. Abe Goldstein and Al Ziemer met once on February 25, 1920, and Abe Goldstein won by TKO.
The meeting

WFeb 25, 1920 · Goldstein · TKO

Head to Head ↓
Who has the better record, Goldstein or Ziemer?
Abe Goldstein is 102-24-9 and Al Ziemer is 0-3 across the 3 bouts Kill The Body has tracked. Abe Goldstein has the higher win percentage. Records shown as tracked have not yet been independently verified as complete career totals.
Records · win %

Goldstein102–24–978.9%

Ziemer0–30%

The Numbers ↓
Who has more knockouts, Goldstein or Ziemer?
Abe Goldstein has 35 knockout wins and Al Ziemer has 0. Abe Goldstein has more.
Knockout wins · KO rate

Goldstein3534.3%

Ziemer0

The Numbers ↓
Do Goldstein and Ziemer have any common opponents?
Abe Goldstein and Al Ziemer share 1 common opponent: Bud Taylor. Al Ziemer fared better against 1 of them.
How much fight data does Kill The Body have on Goldstein and Ziemer?
This comparison is drawn from 135 bouts tracked for Abe Goldstein and 3 bouts tracked for Al Ziemer. Method and activity splits reflect those bouts only.
Bouts tracked · no edge

Goldstein135bouts

Ziemer3bouts

How They Win ↓

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